tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post444084423129212785..comments2024-03-27T10:35:46.596+01:00Comments on Ravalation: Reflections on the Ravagers exploitRavanelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-27570126570797527032015-02-05T14:20:04.452+01:002015-02-05T14:20:04.452+01:00I think part of the message was that they fucked u...I think part of the message was that they fucked up in the way they handled it, and that is heavily reflected in the lightness of most suspensions.<br /><br />Then again, there are always some of the less bright people being who have to act 'cool' about it. It's much easier to feel good about yourself when you post "I got banned for a day, but hey, I don't give a shit" than "I got banned for a day and I feel so bad now". Publicly announcing you were wrong is uncommon these days on fora and social media, everything seems to revolve around "look how amazing I am". Therefore I expect the "I don't give a shit"-people to be more vocal than the ones that do (give a shit).<br /><br />I think the only way to tell how people really feel about this, is by how they will act when new exploits are found. I can only hope Bioware really has learned from this and will act more severely, especially towards accounts with a track record.Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-87233534627223935112015-02-05T01:11:20.989+01:002015-02-05T01:11:20.989+01:00I remember back in the day in LotRO (if I keep say...I remember back in the day in LotRO (if I keep saying this, I'll really start feeling old) there was some exploit in an instance (equal of a FP but with 6 people) in which you could skip a large part of the content. They also ignored that exploit for a long time and, much like in SWTOR, it became widespread. At some point I joined a pug and when we were halfway through that instance, I found out that they planned to use the exploit and I refused to participate. Eventually we did complete it the normal way, but there was a lot of group pressure and I felt they would probably have kicked me if it would've been easy to find a replacement. Needless to say, I did not enjoy that instance. <br /><br />So yes, I agree an environment like that would be really bad. But do you really feel we are heading this way? I at least get the feeling the developers have understood now that they screwed up and that these kind of things can't just be ignored. For me the Ravagers exploit was the first time I got in touch with something like this in SWTOR. Or maybe I'm just seeing the world through pink glasses because I mostly group up with friends and my guilds.Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-5786394705656315232015-02-03T21:41:40.941+01:002015-02-03T21:41:40.941+01:00From what I observed, those that got the 1-day sus...From what I observed, those that got the 1-day suspension laughed it off and turned it into a movie night. Those that got a 3-7 day suspension were genuinely upset and had their guild obligations disrupted. If Bioware wanted to deliver an effective message, a 1-day suspension wasn't the way to do it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-38716173129004330422015-02-03T20:54:33.206+01:002015-02-03T20:54:33.206+01:00I think the problem is that many exploiters have p...I think the problem is that many exploiters have publicly said things like: "Oh, they didn't take any of my gear away and didn't suspend my account for even a day, so clearly it actually paid off in the end." That is <i>not</i> the way I'd want people to think about exploiting.<br /><br />The thing for me is, I find that I'm not too fussed about punishing exploiters in principle... I don't think that cheating in a game is some grand moral failing. But at the same time, I <i>personally</i> don't want to play with cheaters. I nearly /gquit in a rage when I found out that guildies of mine were repeatedly exploting Nefra back in the day. So I don't like the idea of exploiters running rampant to the point where I have to flee from groups and actively search for people who <i>don't</i> want to cheat. That would just be a depressing game environment to me. (And in fairness, that's not what the game is like right now... but if this kind of thing keeps happening I could see it going that way.)Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.com