tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post2304761860848451791..comments2024-03-27T10:35:46.596+01:00Comments on Ravalation: Thoughts on the Fractured exploitRavanelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-69166359245293653872017-01-14T19:05:44.974+01:002017-01-14T19:05:44.974+01:00I certainly feel that the general dislike of the C...I certainly feel that the general dislike of the CXP system will have influenced the decision to not take action against exploiters in this case. I would have preferred *some* form of action, though (even if not severe), because the way Bioware handles exploits seems ambiguous. This just feeds confusion about what to do the next time players encounter an exploit.Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-24031253721980973692017-01-14T18:56:38.797+01:002017-01-14T18:56:38.797+01:00I see what you mean. I think cases like this show ...I see what you mean. I think cases like this show that it's difficult for Bioware to assess how influential a bug is - and how to handle them is tricky. CRR asked for feedback because we were concerned, and Eric was nice to come back to us with a reply within one day (in the weekend!). After that, though, people started to be vocal about it on Reddit and the forum. It is hard to say for sure afterwards, but the statement on CRR may have worked as a catalyst. Honestly, I'd hate to be in their shoes. <br /><br />I agree that something should change, though, especially after now exploiters basically are getting a wildcard until 5.1: Bioware's inconsistent approach to exploits makes it unclear where the boundaries lay for players. Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-91703741075942140162017-01-14T18:31:28.374+01:002017-01-14T18:31:28.374+01:00Thank you for illustrating this with numbers, that...Thank you for illustrating this with numbers, that makes it way more tangible! The Fractured exploit is relatively harmless from the perspective that it only saves a few minutes and that boss isn't particularly hard, but when you get to the bigger picture of people actually farming it over and over, then those minutes do add up. Command rank 70 on four characters just by doing Fractured, that's crazy! With that kind of rush attitude, it's not surprising incidents like I described above happen.<br /><br />I didn't know about the planetary mission bug, so I asked around and now I'm up to date (thanks). Very different type of bug, obviously. I don't feel as strongly about it as the Fractured one; I guess that's because it's not affecting people negatively directly. Pugging should be fun, not a stressful event! Now the exploiters 'won' I'm definitely not pugging uprisings. <br /><br />As for the not punishing people for this one declaration, we're on the same page. Bioware already had a questionable reputation when it came to handling exploits, now it feels hard to take exploiting seriously at all, if the developers don't do it. Pretty much a slap in the face of people that try to abide by the rules by not participating (and sometimes having to endure drama as a result).Ravanelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03447777640056476366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-6282340287944972412017-01-14T01:33:05.659+01:002017-01-14T01:33:05.659+01:00When people go out of the way to glitch a boss, it...When people go out of the way to glitch a boss, it IS an exploit. However, I do understand that some people may just be victims of a PUG doing this glitch and not realizing what is going on. I almost had him bug out once, but the fight just reset.<br /><br />I am surprised that those that abused this exploit aren't getting ToS violations tied to their accounts. I feel a ban is too much to ask here. If the Eternal Grind (love your term) wasn't so badly designed, people wouldn't have to resort to this method. In fact, if other activities gave as much CXP in as short of a time, then it would be a moot point to glitch a boss like that.Ajayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05942642773636563634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-73162126685163783452017-01-14T01:03:17.788+01:002017-01-14T01:03:17.788+01:00Update since fixed:
My reaction to the whole &quo...Update since fixed:<br /><br />My reaction to the whole "we're not going to punish people" stance is just one of confusion. To me, the issue that this is an exploit which people are <i>actively seeking groups for and encouraging publically in General Chat</i> makes it so much worse than being a 'mere' exploit.<br /><br />It's... <i>*sigh*</i>... I don't even know anymore. They firstly left it so long without talking about it and now they've opened up the floodgates, pretty much. That's really not okay.Calphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15809660484854758097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-21924878483214123562017-01-13T14:17:31.576+01:002017-01-13T14:17:31.576+01:00I had to skip the bonus night on Uprisings to avoi...I had to skip the bonus night on Uprisings to avoid "dirtying" my character. Still, the Nar Shaddaa thing has happened to me multiple times. I've reported it twice, but weeks later it's still there.<br /><br />That's why they can't pull the ban hammer out. If it's important enough to kill off loyal customers, it's important enough to take the servers down right now and fix. Don't let it slide for two more weeks, then get mad at us. Anytime they want to threaten us with "actions", I want to see "action" on their part too.The Nicksternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5922857679980740630.post-39303679087977716812017-01-13T12:45:25.115+01:002017-01-13T12:45:25.115+01:00It will most certainly be interesting to see what ...It will most certainly be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully they step in sooner than later (quite honestly I'm disappointed that just like the Ravagers exploit they haven't acted quicker), and send out more than a few punishments. Certainly, one person I know farmed it to the extent that four of his characters have hit Command Rank 70, which amounts to roughly 725,000 CXP, or just shy of Rank 200 on one character.<br /><br />I'm also interested in the Nar Shaddaa planetary missions bug. This one has far less precedent to be considered a serious exploit given that it can only be completed once per day rather than whenever you feel like it, but still; at this point people could have gotten at least 19,350 CXP per character from this glitch, with at least another 4,950 being possibly gleaned until it's fixed. This is the equivalent of quite a lot of Command Ranks for low-Rank characters...!Calphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15809660484854758097noreply@blogger.com